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Post by basscatcher on May 22, 2006 15:14:27 GMT 1
I used to see a lot of them caught off the Cornish Coast - sadly most to commercial boats. I refer to the Monkfish and not the Angler Fish which the fishtrade has got the wrong way around. They are also called Angel Rays by some. Does anyone have any info on seeing any lately. Perhaps this is another fish almost extinct.
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wardy123
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Post by wardy123 on May 22, 2006 21:14:20 GMT 1
Like most sharks and rays, slow reproduction means their populations get caned by the trawls . I was killing time on the net and saw this the other day actually; www.northwalesfishingcharter.com/3.html - it's photo number 48 (I really hope it went back... ) So they must still get caught every now and again up here. They are a text book e.g. of a species that was once caught all the time, then virtually disappeared from trawls in the Irish Sea. They've got one at the Sea Zoo where I used to work, and feeding it was ace. You used to have to drop a squid on its head, then it lept to get it- always used to make me jump. ;D
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Post by basscatcher on May 22, 2006 21:30:15 GMT 1
Looked at the photo and what a cracking fish that is. I just dont see any of them down here anymore. They are a true ambush fish and now what you are saying about the aquarium. Huge mouths and lightening quick. Enough to make anyone jump!!
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Post by webbo on May 22, 2006 22:05:43 GMT 1
Hi All, Sorry to tell you lads that it didn't go back, the guy who caught it gave it to a restaurant and he made scampi type things out of it and if i recall i think it was 42lb/47lb. Don't know the guy who caught it, but used to go out on the boat lots. I'm sure it was caught on hokki's baited with mackerel. A reel shame . Tight Lines.
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Post by basscatcher on May 23, 2006 9:52:06 GMT 1
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Post by bassy on May 23, 2006 12:44:26 GMT 1
many years ago they used to get monkfish often off borth beach, but sadly they got netted out along with the thorn backs. there are still the odd thornie coming out which is a good sign. and there are rumours going around that some netters are still getting the VERY occassional monkfish.
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Post by basscatcher on May 23, 2006 13:38:39 GMT 1
Bassy Is that Monkfish or Angler fish?? Monkfish Anglerfish You will often hear of Monkfish being caught or "tails" by the commercial men. They really mean the Angler fish.
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Post by bassy on May 23, 2006 13:52:12 GMT 1
No definatley monkfish, because some locals call them angel sharks? which im pretty sure its another name for monkfish, i have always called them monkfish, people are different though aren't they!!!
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Post by alanc on May 23, 2006 19:50:51 GMT 1
they used to be used in bait pots untill some trendy tv chefs relised there potential lets hope more rare fish are returned alive or would it have died anyway ?
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Post by flattiefanatic on May 24, 2006 0:14:37 GMT 1
I know they used to be a problem for potters years ago as they would try to steal the bait inside the pots and get wedged in by the head. They used to throw them back because they were just 'pests'...how times change eh. They probably still populate their old haunts, albeit in much decreased numbers. Same with Anglerfish, you hear of the very occassional one, but they seem to prefer Northern waters, as they are actually not that rare of the Norwegian coast...check this one out www.glaucus.org.uk/News2006.htmJust scroll down a bit until you see the pic
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Post by tiawow on May 24, 2006 1:14:13 GMT 1
Big fish that, looks like they stabbed it in the head a few times though!! I can only imagine that anglerfish are not going to be the most common fish to catch from the shore, unless you land your bait on it's head!!
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Post by cliffnorry on Jul 18, 2006 22:19:25 GMT 1
Icaught a monkfish off Rhyl in the fiftes, and even in those days of plenty it was rare, so they have not in my time been plentyfull on the nort Wales coast, by the way' what a fight!!!
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Post by webbo on Jul 18, 2006 23:09:05 GMT 1
I forgot to mention that when the skipper tried to unhook the fish he didn't think it would bite him, so he proceeded to put his hand towards the fishes HUGE mouth, then Bang it went for him, but he just managed to get his hand out, but not his thumb ;D it nearly took it off he's got a cracking scar now ;D ;D ;D
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Post by basscatcher on Jul 21, 2006 17:46:27 GMT 1
They have a lightening quick bite and so rather him than me.
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Post by tango on Jul 21, 2006 17:59:30 GMT 1
Before my retirement I was with the department of Marine, we once caught a trawler with 1800k of monkfish tails on board, ( no so long ago either) needles to say no licience, and no qouta, and not a british or irish vessel but from a country within the eu Monkfish fetches a very high price in europe
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Post by al on Jul 21, 2006 22:53:13 GMT 1
saw a photo of a 40lb+ monk fish caught of barmouth a few years ago.it was taken of the side of the reef close in.the boat was called grayhound.
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Post by davidwilliams on Jul 24, 2006 17:05:41 GMT 1
My dad used to work on one of the few trawlers from Conwy when I was a nipper (10-15 Yrs ago). They used to get some in the nets but never many then and never anything massive. It does command a high price commercially, such a pity that theres so much waste just like with rays though.
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Post by JohnK on Jul 28, 2006 0:03:48 GMT 1
The Angel shark is still at the sea zoo, i was feeding it only this afternoon and can confirm that they move at a hell of a rate when they strike, makes me jump every time. I've been told that they are considered extinct in british waters but are still found in parts of the north atlantic, seems there's still the odd one around here.
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