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Post by centurymad on Jun 15, 2006 19:37:06 GMT 1
hi all, have been sea angling for plenty of years and a member of a club for a good few, but have never really tried float fishing, any tips for snood length etc would be much appreciated as i am unsure of the kind of depths to use acuuretly, thanks, Centurymad
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Post by tompa on Jun 15, 2006 20:27:03 GMT 1
I suppose it depends on what you want to target, whether you want something long and flowing or not. I have been using a hook length of about 2ft and fishing about a foot or so from the bottom. Would say it's a case of trail and error as each venue fishes differently. Hope this helps ;D
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Post by garethp on Jun 16, 2006 0:33:08 GMT 1
loop a length of silicon tube through your line, slide it up, then tie a lead to the line
cast out to where you are fishing, move the silicon until you can see it when your lead is touching bottom, i.e. on the surface, then tie your float rig so that the bait is just off of the bottom
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Post by fester on Jun 18, 2006 21:18:26 GMT 1
Hi Century, Gareth is right in that you need to know the depth, and how he finds it is probably the best way, thats how I do it. Having said that, you need to know at what depth the fish are feeding, so chopping and changing is the order, and with a 0.5cm piece of silicone as a stop knot, this is easily done. Another tip is don't go for the massive tuna and shark type floats that dealers will sell you!, go for the smallest you can, carp, pike, and eel type ones are ideal, and in shallower water self cocking ones are best. Look at the one in my photo, it's tiny compared to most, but it tells me exactly what is happening below! Also use clear line, forget yellow, red, green! and use small hooks too!! Best bait for float fishing include.... Half a sandeel hooked either through the eye, or tail. A sliver of white mackerel flesh from the belly, no more than 5mm wide and 5 cm long. A live prawn A sliver of squid, no more than 5mm wide and 5 cm long. Fresh/Frozen king prawn, shelled. Rag, Lug, Maddies Float fishing for me is probably the most rewarding style of sea fishing. It takes skill, and determination and you are in a state of constant anticipation! Magic!
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Post by tompa on Jun 18, 2006 23:10:28 GMT 1
For a stop not I use a piece of the kids scoobies or whatever they call them and just loop the line through it. I use a piece about 5mm long, it works a treat and it's cheaper than buying power gum ;D
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Post by largerider on Jun 19, 2006 9:56:04 GMT 1
I use 10lb power gum for my stop knots, it gives a smaller knot that goes through the rod rings easier. 5 or 6 six turns on the knot and pulled very tight. There was a piece on float fishing in mays Sea Angler.
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Post by fester on Jun 19, 2006 12:34:09 GMT 1
Probably the most versatile stop knot is a 5-7mm piece of silicone tubing threaded on to the line. This is easily moved up or down and does not cause any real problems with the top eye unless it is a small eye. Heres how....Sorry about the picture quality Thread the line through the tubing, then bring it back around and thread it through again...... Then pull the line tight and you have a sliding stop knot.... Then thread a bead, your float and then your weight. Two foot of trace is about right. P.S. Lookat these floats...Only in America! dmoz.org/Shopping/Recreation/Outdoors/Fishing/Floats/
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Post by tompa on Jun 19, 2006 20:42:05 GMT 1
That's the way I do it but like I say I use a scoobie ;D They come in long length and the kids tie 'em up into funny shapes and things, you know what I mean, don't you?
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Post by fester on Jun 19, 2006 21:31:23 GMT 1
I know what you mean, but are they a bit hard? the silicone tubing is very subtle and easily moved up and down. I used to tie a stop knot like lagerider but its fiddly and silicone is better Sliding stop knot............courtesy of Steve Randels
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Post by tompa on Jun 19, 2006 21:37:54 GMT 1
No mate, they work just fine ;D You can't make them too long tho' as they can catch the top eye when casting.
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Post by fester on Jun 19, 2006 21:40:03 GMT 1
I'll give that a go the kids have loads of them.
Cheers for that.
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Post by tompa on Jun 19, 2006 21:50:30 GMT 1
No sweat mate, happy to help and make it cheaper I also put a bead below the float aswell as I feel it stops it smashing into the lead. Don't know if it actually does anything at all but makes me feel happier ;D
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Post by bassless on Jun 23, 2006 13:21:21 GMT 1
Slightly off topic but I make my own floats for the sea out of cork tops from the wifes wine bottle. You can either just superglue a small swivel in at one end, or you can insert a piece of tubing all the way through, tubbing like the stuff you get with your WD40 spray can is ideal.... The wifes red nail varnish comes in handy too But don't tell her that lol raz
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Post by tiawow on Jun 23, 2006 15:27:47 GMT 1
Something I have been doing with ragworm is puting a carp fishermans cork ball on my snood about six inches away from the hook, hasn't got the same fun as float fishing but achieves the same effect.
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Post by dave1 on Jun 26, 2006 0:23:55 GMT 1
I always tie a piece of rubberband on as a stop knot myself. Cheap, and it works. Float fishing with rag as bait very close in to rocks is very good for wrasse. You need to be quick though, once they bolt back into their hole you won't get them out. Good sport.
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Post by tompa on Jun 26, 2006 20:50:26 GMT 1
Crabs legs are good as well ;D
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Post by tiawow on Jun 28, 2006 17:44:22 GMT 1
I found crabs legs aer good for mini species on size 8-10 hooks, mainy for bottom species like scorpion fish, blennies, gobies and small wrasse. Little rigling tail sections of rag work well too, of and simply head hook a sandeel, when you are catching plenty of small pollack seems to get a better stamp of fish.
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Post by bass on Jul 18, 2006 10:49:43 GMT 1
its silicone tubing for me.I buy packs of float rubbers and use them the same way that Gareth and fester have described.
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Post by learner on Jul 18, 2006 22:01:49 GMT 1
Tompa try that pyro tubing I gave you its the same as silicon (no damage to your line but stronger and should not rot with the salt water. Its cheap (free) from work and It can be used for snoods.
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Post by tompa on Jul 19, 2006 22:18:52 GMT 1
Tompa try that pyro tubing I gave you its the same as silicon (no damage to your line but stronger and should not rot with the salt water. Its cheap (free) from work and It can be used for snoods. I would mate but Zapper took the lot not to worry I'l get some meself ;D ;D
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