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Post by Murphy Atkins on Sept 24, 2004 7:40:45 GMT 1
With guests on my boat; due to the high winds I have been forced into seeking more sheltered water....... Two recent trips in Southampton Water, in the vicinity of Calshot Spit have produced one 6 lb bass, one 5 lb bass and one of 4 lb, all on mackrel strip. Plenty of small dogfish, but nothing like the quantity fishing off Bournemouth. No tope at all :-((( On the ragworm baits we have had one sole of a pound - nice to see, countless baby smooth hound and pleanty of pouting. In the same area in August there was the occasional larger smooth hound, but nothing recently. The mackrel are getting few and far between, but plenty of scad, baby bass and amazingly (I'd never caught one before) 30 plus herring on the feathers (daylight lures). Does anyone know if there are still mackrel at Hurst Spit, or anywhere else on the South Coast - I need to stock up my freezer for winter bait ?
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Post by brian Mace on Sept 26, 2004 18:33:33 GMT 1
Hi Nick
From the boat there were plemty of mackerel in the Hurst area on Saturday - i was fishing mainly Warner ledge. Gars too (freeze better?) plus bass (spinning with shads and plugs, but shads the better). Doubt if the mackerel will be there mich longer.
You seem to be getting some decent bass - I've had a poor year compared to last year, but i am fishing less - gets cold and the duvet seems inviting! Zero bass on live baits. Ah well. next time....
Cheers
Brian
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Post by MurphyAtkins on Sept 28, 2004 8:03:06 GMT 1
Brian, Is Warner Ledge on the left as you head out of the gap towards the Needles or is that the drop off inside the gap between Hurst and the IOW If it is where I think it is then it is just outside on the left; I have seen the mackrel hanging around there to ambush the bait fish pushed up by the tidal surge. I haven't tried it for Bass, but the thought was there. I have seen all the boats drifting in that area for the Bass, but as I hadn't seen one caught I hadn't tried it myself; is it any good and what size Bass do you get there ?? Personally I have found drifting by the sandbank by Cowes okay for fish up to 4Lb. If you drift from the 23 meters (west side of the bank) up onto the bank (heading east) they hit the worm at around 19 to 16 meters. When the depth gets any shallower then it goes dead, so cruise back into the deeper water and repeat. I had three fish doing that last month. I have found that the bigger fish have come to ledgered mackrel strip - guess they are lazy at that size !!
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Post by Brian on Oct 5, 2004 13:50:23 GMT 1
Its the south end of Colwell Bay 50-41.5N, 1-32.8W. Small lures take plenty of mackerel and gars. This year bass disappointing there - small, to 2lbs mostly, occasional 4-5lbs but better luck elsewhere. Maybe drifting with a live mackerel would sort out the bigger ones. What do you reckon?
(BTW I put all my bass back, but I kill them first of course. Joke)
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Post by MurphyAtkins on Oct 11, 2004 18:19:12 GMT 1
Hi Brian...still laughing about the last comment I'm not a great lover of trolling live baits; never had much success so I get put off by it. Ledgered sides of mackerel is my favoured method and that way you never get the little ones annoying you, just the dogfish. But at least you are still in with a chance of a Tope or Ray. Have you tried the deepwater hole (19-21 meters) off Calshot Spit Its been good to me this year.
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Post by Brian on Oct 14, 2004 18:46:33 GMT 1
Don't know about trolling - I was thinking of either drifitng or fishing live baits at anchor. Had great results elsewhere and surely it would pick out the better fish.
Used to catch big John Dory on live baits - there is no limit to what they will eat - but i dont know if you get them round here. Other, much bigger, targets you dont get round here.....
Haven't tried Calshot. haven't tried much other than close-ish to Lymington because i only had a small boat until recently. Now, bigger, faster boat, I am looking a bit further afield.
If only the wind would die down........ and i don't have to work when it does.
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Post by MurphyAtkins on Oct 16, 2004 18:19:32 GMT 1
Hi Brian, My first boat this year, a 16.5 foot American sports Dory, with a 75 HP Mariner. Nice and fast when its calm (hardly ever), but it has got me out and the fishing has been okay. The only trouble is it's a bit low to the water and so I do get water coming in the boat at anchor, especially when the floating caravans (or as they call them - pleasure cruisers) come too close showing off Next year I'm going to treat myself to the 20 foot Atlantis rough sea fishing boat (built in the Channel Islands) with a 150 Hp mariner L-Optimax engine; 200 mile fuel tank; and capable of 35 MPH in a force 5 smooth and dry (according to the designer). Wreck fishing here I come So do you get out deeper ?? round the back of the Island - how far out do you need to go to get the better fish. I haven't been deeper than 16 meters and so far I've been limited to the smaller Tope and Rays. It's good fun catching 20 small Tope in a day on light gear, but I would like to try for the 20 LB plus fish and some better Rays. No fishing this week as too busy working to meet dealines. I'm hoping I can get the work sorted and spend a day out next weekend. I fancy going out off the back of the IOW, but it's unchartered water for me - any suggestions ?? Cheers - Nick
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Post by Brian on Oct 16, 2004 19:29:26 GMT 1
Size doesn’t matter!
Well it does if you are in a boat. I had a Spinner 13 for a year, and now an Orkney 440. Bit small for the Needles marks, except maybe on a good day. Hence more interest closer inshore.
Its coming up to cod time of year and the Needles grounds should produce OK. Try generally a few miles south/south-east of the Needles, around the Fairway buoy or E or SE of it. To be honest, I don’t know of any specific mark, and don’t think there is one. (Memories from charter boats mostly involve leaning over the side and chundering.) Big bait, big lead – the latter isn’t really my idea of fishing heaven. (Rather have a moderate bass on a small lure.) If you are persistent you should get stuff – watch where the other boats are!
Work is crap. Weather is crap. Time to kill!
(fish, that is….)
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Post by MurphyAtkins on Oct 18, 2004 23:49:11 GMT 1
Thanks Brian, Next nice day I shall give it a go and see how the fish bite. I notice there are reports of Cod arriving and my last trip was producing Whiting. See you out there some day. Cheers - Nick
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Post by Brian on Oct 19, 2004 17:38:57 GMT 1
The same needles marks are good for the big bass too.
And dogfish....
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Post by MurphyAtkins on Oct 30, 2004 12:14:44 GMT 1
Thanks Brain, The weather is looking better over the coming week or so; will let you know how I got on if I can get some time to go. Cheers - Nick
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Post by fisherking on Nov 26, 2004 13:07:28 GMT 1
shirley warren angling club held a small club fixture at the deep water section of magazine lane with pout dogfish channel whiting and flounder being returned to the scales
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Post by MurphyAtkins on Dec 1, 2004 23:20:56 GMT 1
Is that by Southampton Docks ?? What sort of quantity of flatties ??....I'm looking for a local mark to boat fish for Flounder - any suggestions ?? Cheers - Nick
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