Global Warming My Bum

[robbie13]

Hi all. I am hearing more & more fisherman blaming global warming etc for the lack of fish we seem to be landing lately.
Believe it or not "global Warming" is a natural event (although i dare say man may be speeding it up a tad!).
Within nature some species will benefit, others will not.

I have noticed that my Summer fishing has improved greatly over the last few years and my Winter fishing has allmost become a waste of time!!!
I lost count the number of Bass i caught last year (both from shore & boat), in fact a couple of days they were becoming a nuisance, as i wanted a few humble Mackerel!!!
Maybe we should blame the EU/Fisheries Dept for letting the seas get "Trolled to Death". Anybody who has dived and seen the "underwater motorways" caused by trawling will know what i mean.
No wonder bottom feeders such as the once mighty Cod are quite cleary on the decline in many areas.

[The Image ™]

That's a good point. If global warming is the cause of the cod decline, why are we not seeing an increase in warm water lovers like mackerel etc.
Ever since I began sea angling 20 years ago, I've never seen the commercial sector admit to anything.

[brmbrm]

I think you are ignoring all the evidence if you dont think that global warming is both real and man-made. not much point quoting scientific references, because you won't read them.

Of course fishing (mostly commercial) has a much bigger impact on fish stocks. Maybe you will deny this too, but there are plenty of examples. Cod is one, not the odd one that comes my way, but the vast shoals that used to live on the Newfoundland banks but are now extinct.

man can, and often does, take what he wants now and bugger conservation. But to say that because you caught a load of bass last year means that global warming doesnt exist is just plain bonkers.

[robbie13]

Throughout the Earths history (and i am talking Thousands of years not Tens/Hundreds) the planet has been subject to climate change. I am NOT doubting than man is contributing to the current change, but i believe he is just speeding up a natural process, and YES it is bad news in general for the environment.
My point is about FISHING not Politics etc. I am merely pointing out that my own expieriences over the last few years has pointed that Summer/warm weather species (Bass/Mackerel etc) seem to be benefitting from the warmer weather. I am not talking about the odd day here and there, i am talking about my general Fishing expieriences throughout the Summer seasons.
You appear to have got "the wrong end of the stick" old chap!.

[The Image ™]

Brm Brm, nobody in this thread has even remotely suggested that global warming doesn't exist. Even a child can work out that it's hppening. The debate is upon the those commercial fishermen who claim that global warming is SOLEY to blame for cod declines.

[brmbrm]

admin said:

Brm Brm, nobody in this thread has even remotely suggested that global warming doesn't exist. Even a child can work out that it's hppening. The debate is upon the those commercial fishermen who claim that global warming is SOLEY to blame for cod declines.

I think we both agree that it is total nonsense to suggest that global warming is SOLELY to blame for cod decline - cod decline started decades before signs fo global warming.

Having said that, the second line of the opening post in this thread said "...Believe it or not "global Warming" is a natural event (although i dare say man may be speeding it up a tad!)...". This so misrepresents the reality that it must be ridiculed for the crap that it is!

Normal climatic changes take place over 10's or 100's of THOUSANDS of years. We have seen such massive changes in a mere century that to deny we have a major problem is to bury your head in the sand!

Personally, my fishing catches have been in such rapid decline for various reasons, none climate related. Sometimes weather-related, since i dont like fishing in the wind and rain these days. Global warming possibly, since the cod are very thin on the ground this year. Much more of an effect is continuing over-fishing for over a century.

Anyway. Tight lines....

[The Image ™]

Fair point. I think that those who manage the fisheries failed to react to global warming. If it is global warming that has reduced cod stocks (and personally I think it's both global warming AND overfishing that's the cause) then trawling should have been reduced in accordance with it, but it wasn't, and here we are now with a tragedy. It makes you wonder what sort of people are running things. My 9 yr old daughter could do better!

[brmbrm]

admin said:

Fair point. I think that those who manage the fisheries failed to react to global warming. If it is global warming that has reduced cod stocks (and personally I think it's both global warming AND overfishing that's the cause) then trawling should have been reduced in accordance with it, but it wasn't, and here we are now with a tragedy. It makes you wonder what sort of people are running things. My 9 yr old daughter could do better!

Yes, i am sure she could - probably because children aren't so preoccupied with money!

Whatever, I think we both agree that fisheries management has been a poor cousin, mainly, perhaps, because those who lobby hardest are the industry, because they have money at stake. Recreational fishos do it for "free".

My next job is to get those bass size limit letters in the post!

[robbie13]

Its clear we all have our own points/theories regarding the lack of fish , and thats one of the reasons forums such as this are an excellent tool for all anglers.Discussion and hearing the points of view of other like minded "muckers" is allways interesting.
Thanks to THE IMAGE & brmbrm for the debate.
I promise my next thread will be about my last fishing trip only!!!!
Robbie13.

[The Image ™]

An interesting thread Robbie.

[Animal]

ummm to be fair we should also through into the equation the damage that women are causing to with the increase in the levels of Oestrogen in the water. therefore i suggest that man is not the only one to blame here.........