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Post by Mossy on Nov 22, 2005 16:15:13 GMT 1
Coming bact to angling after some time away. Is it still okay to fish from Blackpool pier and which pier and what am I likly to catch/apart from a cold.
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Post by michaelybarras on Nov 23, 2005 0:19:30 GMT 1
Hi Mossy as for fishing the Piers at Blackpool it was stopped some years back by the owners may be someone might have more info on this. have heard that codling are coming out along the front.
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Post by predator1 on Jan 6, 2006 17:13:37 GMT 1
is the pier fishing well at the mo ?
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Post by freebird on Jan 7, 2006 21:13:17 GMT 1
fishing off north pier was stopped a few years ago when leisure parcs took it over, the b*******, central pier is only fished by members of salwick social club, no fishing at all off south pier.
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Post by martinw on Jan 7, 2006 22:50:15 GMT 1
I think thats the same company thats got llandudno pier in north wales and the same is happening there slowly, thing is anglers are to blame most of the time, cutting chunks out of the railings for rod rests or chopping bait up on them, and leaving rubbish and empty bait wrappers all over the show!
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Post by pugwash on Jan 10, 2006 11:10:34 GMT 1
think you'll find that after all the rubbish and bait that was left on north pier, it was a few idiots that started a small fire to keep warm on a wooden pier that was the final straw. in a way i dont blame the owners, but it spoilt one of our few fishing venues that was in deep water and you was almost garunteed to catch fish in daylight and darkness. shame really.
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Post by martinw on Jan 10, 2006 20:01:03 GMT 1
Anglers on trefor pier in north wales were lightin disposable bbq's and hammering nails into the pier boards to hold down their beach buddies, whats wrong with people? its people like that we are battling against to keep a good name for the sport. all the anti,s need is ammunition against us and some of us are giving it to them on a plate!
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Post by somethingfishy on Jan 13, 2006 2:38:49 GMT 1
im interested to know wat used to come off the piers at blackpool as this was before my seafishing days.
is north pier deep water then i thought it'd be shallowish being a flat beach?
what used to come out at various times of the year?
bet they used to attract some clowns tho? (local numbskulls)!
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Post by freebird on Jan 13, 2006 20:27:57 GMT 1
had some great fishing off north pier when the jetty was still up, in winter, seen big cod lifted (drop net a must) good size whiting, in summer mackie, full house nearly every cast, gurnard and odd bass, the good old days, wont see again.
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Post by The Image ™ on Jan 13, 2006 20:32:25 GMT 1
I seem to recall that dabs used to feature a lot. 3 a time on occasion.
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Post by pugwash on Jan 14, 2006 13:37:56 GMT 1
in the winter you would get upto 50 whiting and dabs in a tide along with flounder, rockling and the occasional cod. even tho many people talked about cod being caught, i seldom saw any being landed and i was an all night regular in the winter because i worked evening shift. the summer saw many fish being caught in the shape of plaice, pouting, flounder, small tope, odd skate, mackeral and odd bass.
the problem we have is that the owners wont let anglers on anymore because of handfull of idiots and because of the jetty no longer being in place. also your coment about deep water. let me tell you that when you was on the jetty you could be fishing in water upto 30ft deep.
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Post by colin1 on Jan 18, 2006 20:51:28 GMT 1
eastbourne peir is the same owners as LLandudno and eastbourne peir you have to pay a£1 if you are a member of the club and £2 if you are not a member per rod there is a shop at the end and you can get tea or coffee if you are a member which is £15 a year you can fish when you like night or day if you are not a member you can only fish till midnight it is not that bad and there is order there as most nights there are club members there to keep order just thought would put the other side there
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Post by predator1 on Feb 4, 2006 21:52:50 GMT 1
Its the same at colwyn bay
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Post by shaky111 on Feb 15, 2006 16:01:24 GMT 1
Both South and Central are run by private clubs - South has fishing only from Sept to Easter. Leisure Parcs has just announced that fishing on both piers is to cease immediately. The Evening Gazette will be doing a piece either tomorrow 17Feb or Friday with copy to the Sea Angler. Both clubs are making representations to Leisure Parcs but these seem to be falling on deaf ears - Anyone have Trevor Hemmings home address? The resons are "Health and Safety" during the season and the fact that during the winter they have outsourced their security to a private firm. They will no longer be employing their own staff. The same thing has happened with the "rides" which have all been sold off to a concessionaire. This means that the staff that used to be re-empolyed each year to amn these facilities will have to apply for their jobs with another company. It is anticipated that all these jobs will go to our friends from Eastern Europe who have flooded into this country recently.
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Post by shaky111 on Feb 19, 2006 23:38:04 GMT 1
Many thanks to the Evening Gazette, Radio Lancashire and Granada Reports for airing this item. The company Leisure Parcs took their usual stance of declining to comment to all media questions. They wont even talk to the angling clubs who have leasehold agreements with them? I have heard allegedly that that is also the way they treat their employees when faced with management decisions. There appears to be no negotiations over decisions - they are just enforced from the top. Do we know of any other piers owned by Leisure Parcs? ?
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Post by pricy on Mar 5, 2006 13:32:07 GMT 1
Hi all may be some good news on fishing clubs using the Blackpool piers again, In the Sunday Express 05/03/06 is an article that states due to a campain by the paper the owners Leisure Parcs are to meet the clubs to talk on opening the piers for fishing. Lets hope this happens then other clubs across the country should also contact them to open all there piers for fishing,what is good for one is good for all.
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Post by Sarge on Mar 6, 2006 13:28:37 GMT 1
According to my mate Dave fro Blackpool "Fishing was allowed on two of the piers BUT only for members of a fishing club from the massive Nuclear energy plant between Blackpool and Preston, they would not let out any day tickets and it was there own private little club. Now it is being removed for health and safety reasons, the nuclear fishing club are trying to get all the other fishermen (whom they wouldnt normally give the time of day to) to help them overturn the ban,
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Post by Sarge on Mar 7, 2006 15:36:42 GMT 1
Part of my last post appears to have gone, how bizzare, so here's the re-phrased missing bit :
"Most of us local anglers are, pardon the pun, telling them to sling their hook. They didn't help/allow us to join them on the pier and now they want our help / voice "
Any Nuke fishermen out there care to agree/contradict my hearsay ?
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Post by pugwash on Mar 7, 2006 17:05:24 GMT 1
well said sarge. you try joining these groups to allow yourself to fish and you will find a shoulder colder than the arctic. we as the public should be allowed to join these clubs to fish these venues, but as stated before, too many people leave litter, smelly bait and slippery surfaces for the public to walk on and the club keep closed doors to minimise the chances of this happening.
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Post by shaky111 on Mar 8, 2006 12:07:53 GMT 1
There are allways people who think that they are being hard done by.
We are all fully aware of the reasons for fishing being stopped on North Pier in the 90s. Its similar on the North wall, I only have to walk along the promenade wall between Gynn Square and Norbreck to see how irresponsible many anglers can be, discarding litter, bait and fishing line. If that situation doesnt improve I can see the council stopping it along there.
South Pier has been a private club for donkeys years - at one time you had to live within a certain area of Blackpool to be allowed to join. They relaxed these restrictions some years ago. When North Pier was open very few individuals wanted to join anyway and there was a similar scenario on Central.
The fact that Central and South Piers have been run by private clubs was at the insistence of the Pier Managers The private clubs for both Central Pier and South were accessable but you had to make an effort to contact the relevant secretary and in put your name on the waiting list. Most individuals on the waiting list get a pass within 2 years.
The number of anglers allowed on each pier was controlled by the Pier Management - they issue the passes!!! Over the last few years Leisure Parcs to its credit has allowed the Salwick Club which has leased Central Pier since 1975 to inctrease the no. of passes allocated from 100 to 200. We were encouraged to increase the no of passes because "the pier management felt that it encouraged "holiday visitors" to venture onto the pier"
I understand that there is to be a meeting with Leisure Parcs Management/Winter Gardens shortly and this will include the 2 local MPs being in attendance. The meeting arranged for last Friday had to be cancelled
Thanks to everyone who has supported us in our current campaign.
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Post by shaky111 on Mar 12, 2006 14:25:27 GMT 1
A meeting took place between Gordon Marsden MP Blackpool South nad Clive Sullivan Management of Leisure Parcs, Winter Gardens on Friday. Having told the interested parties the contents of this meeting, it is hoped that a statement to the media will be made by Gordon on Monday.
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Post by Dive Dive Dive ™ on Mar 18, 2006 10:46:40 GMT 1
Not being a local.... what was the statement made?
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Post by shaky111 on Mar 19, 2006 19:59:12 GMT 1
There was a report in the Evening Gazette on Saturday night which in essence stated that Gordon Marsden MP had met with the Leisure Parcs management and had brokered a deal that the clubs being ousted from South and Central Piers could have access to North Pier.
I will be attending a meeting with Leisure Parcs management at the Winter Gardens Blackpool on Monday @ 4pm with several other officials from South and Central clubs to discuss the offer being made.
At this time none of has any idea what this offer will amount to except that Leisure Parcs appear to have listened to the reasoned arguments put forward by Gordon Marsden Blackpool South Labour MP and are prepared to allow fishing by a private club on North Pier.
Clearly in this instance intervention by our local MP, the media coverage both on TV and in the various local and national newspapers has had the desired effect. Our grateful thanks to all who have helped with this campaign.
I will report as much as I can tomorrow evening.
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Post by shaky111 on Mar 20, 2006 22:51:37 GMT 1
Well I attended the meeting to-day at 4pm. The leisure Parcs management were only prepared to see each leaseholder ie the man with his name on each lease . They met with Clive Sullivan and were advised that nothing would be offered until both clubs ie South Pier Angling and Salwick Angling sea section amalgamated. This has been agreed bythe officials of each club. When a document comfirming this situation is in the hands of Leisure Parcs they will put their proposals to the "leaseholder" at the merged club.They will only meet with one individual at a time! We were therefore not as optomistic as before and we feel that it might be a long road of negiotiations. Leisure Parcs do not want any details of the plans or discussions made public so I will not be reporting any further details until we have a result. It is intended that Leisure Parcs will then disclose what has been agreed. They wish to be in the driving seat as these events unfold. The negiotiations may come to nothing in the end because there may be so many restrictions that it may not be a viable venture. We are trying to be positive.
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Post by colin1 on Mar 23, 2006 16:14:32 GMT 1
sounds as they are trying the bulling way therewonder if there are any people ou there that would say that fishing has been going on longer than the owner have had the peir so the fishermen have some rights and surly what the owners do on there other peir is some thing that could be said there is a peir in Eastbourne that they have and it has a club that runs it and they have a club house at the end of the pier
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Post by shaky111 on Apr 27, 2006 17:02:08 GMT 1
Nothing to report yet except that the two previous clubs fishing South and Central have agreed to merge under one banner as required by Leisure Parcs. Leisure Parcs have been advised that Salwick Seas Angling Club will be the legal leaseholder and we now await them putting their contract to us.
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