prowler 13 on e-bay

[martinw]

If there is anyone out there bidding or watching the ocean kayak prowler 13 angler on e-bay, there is no backrest or waterproof tacklebox with it as comes standard with the new ones. I asked the seller this question the other day but the question was not displayed on the sellers page, at the moment its a bargain at 360.

[richi]

Thats no bargain lineline-just bought a brand new one from Bournemouth canoes for £419linelineline--they have a sale on this week linelinelineI think it's 12 1/2%offlineand it's the new one from N.Z. in flame colour-(red/orange)with tackle box,seat and flush mounts

[georgieb]

Martin is about right it is a bargain under normal circumstances ( there are not many real kayaking bargains on ebay), the RRP being 479.00 ( with seat of course) Most folks will not find themselves in a sale at the right time, so you were lucky and its its a surprise really to find that you managed to make a decision in time, given the umming you do.
The P13 you have bought is a good but also poor boat. I have one. Your tackle box is worthless, your hatches won't close or open when there's any sea water /sand involved. Your flush mount rod holders will detach completely if you take a tumble with your rod in the holder- the boat will then leak to the extent of badly and then you will start to sink.

Enjoy - and welcome .

[richi]

I'm glad they didn't use your opinion as a sales description.I don't think anyone would have bid for a worthless leaking piece of rubbish or is it a bargain this is all so confusing

[georgieb]

richi,

You've got a good boat enjoy it.
I do have some gripes about the P13 angler though.
1- The 6" hatches covers are close to useless(they are on my boat anyway) There are 2 on my version, one in front of the seat ( can be used for fishing bits/bait, but it cannot be made waterproof during use at sea, any tiny bit of grit will prevent it closing watertight, so it will steadily fill with water.
The same for the 6" hatch in the tank well behind the seat. This situation is worse, if that leaks the water enters the hull. To make them watertight they have to be fastened down so hard you cant get them open again without a significant tool to help you. I've had that problem with carkeys in the hatch and the lid jammed tight using stones from the beach like a hammer and chisel trying to get it open. ( I'm sure that didn't do it any good). Now I carry a tool to get them open.
2- The tackle box - to be fair i know you have to travel light on a kayak- but the tackle box is a poor effort really- it could have been twice the size at least.
3- Make sure you take rods ouf rod holders on your way back in through the surf then you won't wreck your rod holders.
the P13 is popular I know, but if anyone out there is thinking of getting one, take your time and look around there are some excellent boats around
- Stitch mentioned the Cobra Mariner - excellent.
- Malibu Kayak range
-Wilderness do an Angler version of the Tarpon 120. Thats a nice boat.
All the best

[richi]

thanks for clarifying things GeorgieB agree about the flush mounts looks like I won't be using the hatch too.I had looked at all the other yaks but decided on the prowler.First yak was the Caper which I had many happy hours with.Wanted a bit more space/speed and prowler seems the natural progression.I hope to have as much fun as you have had in yours if the truth was known.I must say I'm glad they don't make them with a 6 inch hatch in the tankwell now also the tacklebox will do me because all I ever took on the Caper was a chinese take-away container

[georgieb]

On the positive side though, the P13 tracks well and flies through the water, plenty of space and something that a lot of other boats don't have and that's loads of rigging and webbing around the boat which make getting hold of it in the water easy and gives stacks of opportunities for tying things on. I know you can add these things yourself but it came as standard with my boat ,don't know if they still do. Despite my screaming at the hatch covers sometimes ( i wonder if anyone has an answer to the grit and jamming problem apart from leave the boat at home) I have enjoyed every second in my P13 (so far) even the tricky moments, and I can recommend it . I am hoping to get out this weekend somewhere, the weathers looking reasonable with an afternoon HW.
Best of luck

[zebra]

hello all vasaline on the hatch treads stops any water and makes it easy to get on and off
put plenty on
terry

[Trouty]

Your flush mount rod holders will detach completely if you take a tumble with your rod in the holder- the boat will then leak to the extent of badly and then you will start to sink.
Never read such nonsense!! You obviously have a fault with yours!

[martinw]

c'mon, this isn't a slanging match, its good to have feedback from people that have had different problems/faults with kayaks and if we all make it known to each other we can prevent the worse from happening.

richi, i got my p13 from Bournemouth canoes about a month back, paid 479 for mine, you had a bargain at 419, right place, right time. Ive had problems with my hatch not opening, like georgieb, and at the end of a paddle my car keys were floating in about an inch of water. Half of the problem is you buy blind, if you could have a days paddling before you buy one, we'd all be happy ;D I'd like to think we can help people out in that way at the meets.

The p13 on e-bay would have been a bargain if you are already a kayaker and have all the kit, but by the time you had paid 360 for that one, paid the petrol or postage to get it, got yourself a decent paddle, a backrest and a waterproof tackle box, you may as well have bought a new one for 479 and had the paddle thrown in ;D

Zebra, vasaline eh, some sort of fetish? ;D ;D ;D

[georgieb]

Dont take the sinking thing too seriously Trouty bit over the top i know. The rod holder will come out as happened to me- to one of them. So much so that the hull area that it is screwed into also broke off , with holder out it left a hole you could put your fist in and a small crack in the hull heading to the water line. I ve had to remake the hull to provide a fixing position for the holder. Will not be going out through surf with rods in the holders again.
Have a nice weekend.

[zebra]

i put loads of vasaline on the threads of the hatch about 12 months ago and have had a dry hatch since even at the last meet my keys and money were bone dry and easy to get on and off it does work .as for the tackle box it is a bit small but it is just the right size for your hooks and swivels i made a small wooden box that fits the tacklebox well which has all my bits and Pieces in booms feathers jelly worms shads ect and with the small waterproof hook boxon top it fits in well and gives me all the tackle to hand that I need .I seen Georges rod holder after it was broken out and can only agree with what he said the kayak will fill with water in a very short time the hole it left was about 2 inches Georges kayak had a fair bit of water in it after it happened had he not noticed it he could have had a very serious situation after I seen what had happened to his rod-holders I loosened mine and added a small amount of silicone around the edge then re-tightened them to form a waterproof gasket .George has not got a fault with his at all they are all the same the rod holders are a potential weak point. the prowler 13 is a great fishing kayak and for the price we are paying for them we are all getting a hell of a lot for our money .
the great thing about a kayak forum is we can all share ideas and alert people to potential pitfalls as well as offering positive help on how to sort out the problem i for one am very greatfull to georgeb for alerting us all to his problem so we can all learn from it and how to fix it .the only way we will learn is by people making mistakes and having problems and posting the problem so we can all be alerted .
anyway martin what have you called the baby??? its great news to us all .we are all awaiting the photo though .
terry

[martinw]

thanks terry, shes called Ella, as soon as ive spoken to john legg so he can talk me through putting the pics on a thread, there will be no stopping me!! ;D

[georgieb]

I only gripe tongue in cheek, i love my boat and have currently got it sitting on the kitchen table (nowhere else to put it) getting its rodholder finished and a bit more of a paint job and a vaseline attack on the hatch covers (thanks to terry, will let you know how i get on, going out on Sunday for a paddle and fish) . Terry makes goods points as usual and amongst others i would like to mention two of them , 1 - the exchange of info and sense of common purpose , has been an important part of this forum and valued by i think most of us, and 2 - he metions that the Prowlers are good value for money. I think he's right, they are. A couple of us are going out Sunday - nothing major just a local paddle and see whats about -PM if anyone want's to meet up.

[zulu]

So I take it you guy's haven't seen the new New Zealand boats available in the UK now...............

The hatches are far better than the old ones, the fittings are far better and the scuppers are completely different.

I cant think of a better boat for the price..................

Oh - dont forget every OK Prowler has a three year warranty - dont know anyone else offering that.......









Regards
Mike

[johnlegg]

mine arrived for the 4th Feb meet so most of us got to see it, they are much nicer than the USA one

[martinw]

Hi zulu, whats that little white cap under the tackle box for??

[ntombi]

Hey Zulu ......and all others

how many of you know of a manufacture that offer a lifetime warranty on kayaks .?? ... I do .... Malibu ;D ;D

[martinw]

Thats it mate, rub it in ;D ;D, hopefuly with lots of love and affection my boat will last a lifetime

[ntombi]

With the way you keep rolling it in the surf .... ;D ;D ;D

[martinw]

ooooooh, good one. didnt see that one coming lol ;D ;D ;D, thats why im after a smaller surf boat. have had a quick look on the web for malibu yaks, can you pm me some details?? or would it be easier if i sent you my e-mail address in a pm??

[ntombi]

Martin

send me your email via pm

cheers
stuart

[Eddie]

I'm thinking of giving this Kayak mallarky a try, it sounds like a good way to excersise and fish at the same time. I might just get myself down to try it out day in May, it sounds like a good way to dabble before committing any serious finance to it. One thing I was wondering though, when fishing in open sea, and presuming you fish the bottom, how do you stop the kayak drifting too much? Is there some sort of anchor or is it okay to drift?

[zebra]

hi eddie
we use an anchor just like any other boat but only need a small one to hold a yak in place .we do drift as wall just depends on what fish we are targeting at the time .after all a kayak is just a one man boat .

[martinw]

Hi eddie, definitely get yourself to one of the meets, you will be quite welcome to try the kayaks, ive got a prowler 13 you can try mine to your hearts content!!. As for anchors, have a look at the "cockpit area photos" thread, hatter3 has put a link on there on how to rig up an anchor, that might give you an idea on how its done, i will be using that system.

[Eddie]

Many thanks for the info lads, I might just hold you to that offer Martin!!