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Apr 28, 2006 10:50:29 GMT 1
Post by The Image ™ on Apr 28, 2006 10:50:29 GMT 1
I'm surprised by how many kayaks go out without an anchor. In the RN we were bounced off the walls if found to have gone in a boat without an anchor. They instilled in us a fear of being without an anchor saying it's the only method of staying in one spot if things go wrong. They were far stricter on this than many of the other rules they had. Having enough rope for it was another strict rule.
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Apr 28, 2006 11:14:57 GMT 1
Post by basscatcher on Apr 28, 2006 11:14:57 GMT 1
Was one of the first things I bought.
Always thought that if I was struggling to paddle back or in trouble then the anchor could be dropped until help arrives.
1.5KG anchor two 40ft lenghts of 6mm rope each fitted with spliced in loop and stainless spring clip. Anchor chain and shackle fitted to anchor nose and weak link. Also made up a piulley system to rig the anchor front or back. Its not exactly the same as the ones posted before but will do th job.
I also have a small bouy which should be attached to the anchor rope. Where you anchor and the rope enters the water at an angle a bouy should be used to mark the anchor rope.
I cant beleive others go without do they?
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Apr 28, 2006 11:42:55 GMT 1
Post by chrish on Apr 28, 2006 11:42:55 GMT 1
i must admit i dont use an anchor but my kayak gives me certain problems with using an anchor. i admit though i should scratch my head and get round this somehow.
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Apr 28, 2006 12:18:43 GMT 1
Post by zebra on Apr 28, 2006 12:18:43 GMT 1
I think Glyn makes an excellent point an anchor is very important. Not only to fish from but also to keep you in one position .well said Glyn
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Apr 28, 2006 14:18:01 GMT 1
Post by starvinmarvin on Apr 28, 2006 14:18:01 GMT 1
Have to admit that it's an item that I always carry but when drawing up the AnglersAfloat Safety Checklist I actually decided to leave it off believing that in an emergency and possible state of panic, one could get easy tangled, or caught up when engaging it. Or attempting to anchor in a rip. Having seen that what the RNLI have to say about it I may add it to the list. Comments anyone ? SM
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Apr 28, 2006 14:44:27 GMT 1
Post by The Image ™ on Apr 28, 2006 14:44:27 GMT 1
RN stands for Royal Navy. I'm not sure what the RNLI say about it. As regards tangles etc, if an anchor and rope are unlikely to be used, they should be kept in a bag, box, container etc. There should be no danger of tangles. I think the exception to the rule would be surf kayaks who have no intention of going past the last breaker and shouldn't be carrying anything at all in their yak but themselves.
One of the greatest reasons for emergency calls to the costguard in summer is inflatables floating offshore and kayaks have the same ability to float fast from an offshore wind which shouldn't happen if you have an anchor. Worth remembering that if you lose your paddle, your anchor is all you've got!
I think another anchor importance for kayaks is if you need a rest. You can't afford to if you're against the wind or tide without an anchor as you can lose 30 mins worth of paddling in 5 mins rest, but with an anchor you can have that all important rest.
I remember having an engine problem on my boat off Holyhead while drift fishing for pollock. I suddenly noticed I was drifting towards rocks so I put out the anchor and carried on sorting the back up engine. A fortnight later I saw a speedboat with the same problem but no back up engine and no anchor. Boy, was he in trouble!
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Apr 28, 2006 17:55:08 GMT 1
Post by tribble on Apr 28, 2006 17:55:08 GMT 1
Last year i had to cut my anchor rope due to the weather changing so quickly. Don't be affraid of doing this, but first radio your paddle partner and wait till he or she gets to you before cutting the rope then head back to shore if need be you can share the one anchor
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May 10, 2006 12:58:40 GMT 1
Post by cliffnorry on May 10, 2006 12:58:40 GMT 1
galvanised folding grapnel anchors with weighted shanks for improved holding 0.7kg £4.50, 1.5kg £5.99 and so on up to 8kg@£24.99, www.tcschandlery.co.ukjust to give you some idear how little it cost for safty, note the weighted shank, this is the important part' on a boat we use a longe chain for the same job.
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May 10, 2006 15:17:29 GMT 1
Post by speciman on May 10, 2006 15:17:29 GMT 1
After setting up an anchor buoy and quick release system when fishing for larger species I will try to stick with this system for general fishing. For me if there are any tangles it would be with the quick release rope - if this needs to be cut I can get my anchor & line back as its marked by a buoy.Recommend keeping your knife on your pfd and not on your leg in case your leg gets tangled by line or rope and you can't reach it.
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Post by zebra on May 26, 2006 2:51:53 GMT 1
"note the weighted shank, this is the important part' on a boat we use a longe chain for the same job". so do we on the kayaks
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May 26, 2006 10:46:57 GMT 1
Post by menaiman on May 26, 2006 10:46:57 GMT 1
One problem with using a grapple type anchor and chain is the noise they make which can spook fish. Remember sound travels a lot farther in water. Danforths are very noisy. On one american article I came across, the author used a small dumbell tied direct to the rope. I've also heard of sash weights, rocks & bags of sand or pebbles used, all of which can be lowered to the seabed quietly. Fine if there'a no strong currents or winds. Alternatively, a home made light grapple can be used, tied direct to the rope where the grapple hooks into a rocky/kelpy seabed. If the grapple is light enough the prongs can be pulled straight if it's snagged. Not sure if this would be possible off a kayak! Another method is to use a small Bruce type anchor (which has no moving parts) tied direct. This is great on sand gravel etc. In this case the rope is tied to "nose" (don't know the proper term) of the anchor and held along side the shank with a loop of fishing line (10lbs bs is enough) as a trip link. I use this method from small boats & it works a treat. The only downside of the Bruce is it's not so good on rocks. Regarding safety there's no question, an anchor & chain is still the best method.
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May 26, 2006 16:20:42 GMT 1
Post by capnjack on May 26, 2006 16:20:42 GMT 1
lidls are doin a 4k anchor for 9.99 and an anchor rope and chain for 19.99 from1st june ;D
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May 26, 2006 16:26:38 GMT 1
Post by speciman on May 26, 2006 16:26:38 GMT 1
Thanks for the posting that Captain.
For the kayak 4kilos is too much though. We tend to use 1.5kilo (3pound) - I sometimes go lighter with the tiny .75kg ones. Prices vary but a 1.5kilo anchor is around £6.50 where I'm based.
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Post by alanc on May 29, 2006 9:51:42 GMT 1
I use a .75kg folding grapnel 4ft of chain and 30m of 4mm nylon cord but this does,nt hold to well in sand so the bigger size would be the better option i would think ,but an anchor is a must for fishing
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